restricted free agency

[IceTyger]

Wow. It sure was good to get going as there is just some really crazy bidding going on in the restricted free agency section.

[Raven Maniac]

The bidding has been wild and sometimes puzzling. Try this out:

If you are going to make the opening bid on a player in RFA that has a contract of 4.659 and you really want to get the player in question -

Would you bid 4 @ 1.250 = 5.000 allowing current owner to match at a salary of 1.250.

or

Would you bid 4 @ 1.150 = 4.600 requiring the current owner to match at 4.659 to keep the player.

[SuperStarDestroyer]

sheesh i asked the same thing and got accused of bullying... better watch yourself

[SuperStarDestroyer]

this was well worth the rush... wow

[SuperStarDestroyer]

how about the guy who was going to get back to you over the weekend over your concerns... heck i wish every weekend i had lasted a month lmao

[IceTyger]

As i usually prefer to bid like a man, i would bid whatever amount i felt necessary.
As a man, i typically do not bid small amounts on over a hundred unrestricted free agents that i would plan on dumping the next day.
But that may be because i don't know the tricks to the system that allows someone to blow cap dollars and somehow miraculously recover them.
But then I usually don't have time to worry about trivial things like getting free agency going when people aren't bidding on restricted free agents anyway.
And i still haven't laid eyes on the new and improved rules i was told about a month ago.

[Raven Maniac]

Bid like a man, what the hell does that mean? If bidding big in UFA makes you a man - good luck. The test of manhood has nothing to do with FF or any other game. Your bids on Morgan, Demulling and Udeze sure don't live up to your bragging about your manly bids.

I seldom ever comment on owner bidding, but when the owner gave another owner such a hard time for making it easy to match a bid and now has done the same thing I commented. Perhaps you should thank him, it saved you 3.000 in cap room this year.

[IceTyger]

Wow. I am impressed you could respond without dragging what I wrote down to your reply even though that is normally what i see. A written statement with a reply that has copied and pasted text from a response written one or two whole replies earlier.
Unfortunately, the copied text in your statements is usually more interesting than your incessant whining. I find it amusing that you seem to have all of this time to comment on every little thing in this league and to post replies within minutes of a posting. Is it that you have no life or what.
You wanted to rush this rfa so badly, yet i see no bids on the rfa. And any time some owner posts something, you have some half witted remarks and self serving interest that makes me wonder if you are a sixteen year old kid.
By the way, keep bidding up those unrestricted free agents so you can drop them tomorrow.

[SuperStarDestroyer]

Uh this particular bid was for the 6th pick in the draft. if he matched then I will use it another way. The one before i simply made the other owner aware that he had done that and it was for a player who was not even valuable. Perhaps you ought to think before trying to make situations seem similar or at least ask a question, like I did.

[Raven Maniac]

Uh this particular bid was for the 6th pick in the draft. if he matched then I will use it another way. The one before i simply made the other owner aware that he had done that and it was for a player who was not even valuable. Perhaps you ought to think before trying to make situations seem similar or at least ask a question, like I did.


The only difference between the 2 situations is yours involved a 1st round draft pick. If you bid 1.150 he has to match at the higher salary, you bid 1.250 he matched at that salary and saved 3.000+. The principle is the same
1st round pick or not.

[SuperStarDestroyer]

you just contradicted yourself in your own statement.....

[Raven Maniac]

Don't see a contradition, but no matter.

I have a person that is going to let me know this week about buying your team. I will let you know one way or the other. If you get a buyer I would appreciate a heads up.

[SuperStarDestroyer]

"The only difference between the 2 situations is yours involved a 1st round draft pick."

yeh a HUGE difference

"The principle is the same
1st round pick or not."

that is like saying holding is not holding if you are just using your left hand.

i was not upset by the other guy's bid. i only sent him a one line email asking if he was aware of what he did. I wasn't arguing a principle. It isn't my fault that he and YOU have some sort of blockhead effect, where you have to express yourselves without ever listening to anyone else and then go off half-cocked.

[Raven Maniac]

No difference in the dollar situation. You have the block. I will try to explain it one more time.

4 x 1.250 = 5.000 - owner can match for 1.250

4 x 1.150 = 4.600 - owner must match his 1 year at 4.??? - don't remember the exact numbers.

Which give you the better shot at getting the player you bid on? If you can't understand that I don't know what to tell you.

[SuperStarDestroyer]

nm.... i mean seriously.. if you have someone to buy, that is fine, or whatever. i really just do not want to discuss anything with you ever again. it is a pointless excercise trying to communicate with someone who refuses to read what you are saying. yikes

[Raven Maniac]

That is fine with me. I get tired of you trying to justify something with smoke and mirrors.

[SuperStarDestroyer]

OMG I should not even dignify that with an answer!!!!

You are talking to a person that has tried to strengthen the league rules against inpropriety in trades and moves, while you have argued for and participated in moves that have been vetoed!!! EVEN IN THIS VERY LEAGUE!!!! Someone who would sit there and wouldn't have any problem with someone trading WIllie Parker and 4 or 5 other players for a 7th rounder has no grasp on ethics at all or what other people's feeling are. In essence if a trade like that is deemed legal and perfectly acceptable then any move by anyone is legal for that right, and should be right up your alley. So why you would complain about a move of mine is absurd.

See, I have tried to explain what the differences are in one move and the other and explained that I was not trying to stop anyone from doing anything and thus if I wanted to, i could just go around and do it to every owner and help them all out. You however went off on some tangent, not even knowing what I had said in my email, because that is who you are. Everything that comes out of your mouth is a joke. I wish i still had all the email I got about you this year. maybe that would shut you up. beating you in the head with a sledgehammer of logic and explanations of what I am doing certainly does not.

[Raven Maniac]

Yes I did vote for the trade, I also state that I did not like the trade, but unless the rules are changed it is legal. The rules were not changed and the trade was reinstated by the Court by a 2 to 1 vote. Until the rules are changed, which may never happen, I will to continue to vote for trades that do not violate my interpretation of the rules. You can vote anyway you like I don't care.

I read your posts very carefully and stand by my statements. As for someone slamming me - who cares. There have been a couple of people in THIS VERY LEAGUE that have had less than kind words about you, so what.

I pay little attention to other people opinions of anyone. I have my own opinion of you without any regard to other peoples opinions.

I don't care about your bid, but don't like hypocrisy.

[IceTyger]

I have been dealing with dopey-dimwits for quite awhile and found the best way to do so is in private, thus not giving them a forum to spew their stupidity. When I have a problem with someone like you in real life the solutions are pretty simple. If they work for me or supply one of my three companies I fire them. If they get in my face I try to disuade them and if that does not work I move them. If I am unable to use those methods because they are not at hand I just ignore them, which is what I am going to do with you. I have been teaching martial arts for a number of years and the mental part I teach is to avoid confrontations if at all possible. Since all I have ever seen from you is negativity I will follow my own advice. However, that does not mean that I will not express my opinion on topics relating to League 5.

Since cut and paste is your "favorite" I decided to use that method to respond to your diatribe.

"Wow. I am impressed you could respond without dragging what I wrote down to your reply even though that is normally what i see. A written statement with a reply that has copied and pasted text from a response written one or two whole replies earlier.Unfortunately, the copied text in your statements is usually more interesting than your incessant whining. I find it amusing that you seem to have all of this time to comment on every little thing in this league and to post replies within minutes of a posting. Is it that you have no life or what."

The last time I checked Forums where for discussion, so if you do not want responses to your posts do not post. What is really amusing is when someone has nothing intelligent to say you can expect the whining, no life, child statements from them. My favorite, which probably applies to you, is - 5'7", 235 pound, size 6 shoes with Napoleon Complex. I have found that when someone starts talking about be manly they usually are not. As to my life it is pretty full - own 3 companies, employ 180 plus people, nice family........................

"You wanted to rush this rfa so badly, yet i see no bids on the rfa. And any time some owner posts something, you have some half witted remarks and self serving interest that makes me wonder if you are a sixteen year old kid."

This is a year round league and that is why I like the format and sitting idly by is not why I bought into EFS. All I did was express my opinion, you do not like it - tough. Whether anyone bids in RFA or not has nothing to do with the EFS year round format. I guess anyone that disagrees with you is half witted, but I did not get where I am in life letting a dope influence my actions.

"By the way, keep bidding up those unrestricted free agents so you can drop them tomorrow."

I will run my team the way that has proven to be successful for me, I suggest you do the same and shut-up. When you make bids you are bidding, but not up. When someone else bids they are bidding up. You are a total jerk.

You are welcome to reply but I am done with this topic and most especially you.


Nice email. I know that there are people whining about bullying. They should be whining about the stupidity that is being forced upon me.
blah blah blah, in my life i have found that those that expound upon their big adventures are mainly puffery. Especially someone who has enough time to make a thousand postings on a fantasy football website every day.

As i used to tell the kids i taught how to play hockey, keep your heads up. Oh wait, i guess that doesn't really make a lot of sense here. Oh well, that is okay as none of your diatribe has any meaning.

In other words, you bore me as you failed to argue the fact that you wanted to get rfa going and no bids are even on there.

By the way, I am an excellent marksman with a pea shooter, so i do not fear your petty threats.

[Raven Maniac]

Thanks for the post. Figured you would post.

[SuperStarDestroyer]

Gary,

I have dealt with a lot of dim witted people over the years and while you do not win the prize, you come close. You remind me of my ex-wife - when all else fails draft up everything negative that ever happened and use half truths and lies to try to make a point that cannot really be made.

You said League 5 vetoed a trade. Bullshit, the Court said to repost the trade and let those that could not vote do so. However, prior to that I voluntarily tweeked the trade to make it more palatable to the 3 or 4 owners that did not like it - key word voluntarily. Had the trade gone to the Court it probably would have passed muster. I let that lie on the forum pass to keep from opening up old wounds. I believe in letting history be just that, but you can not find any way to get to me so you try underhanded bullshit. Most of the owners know what really happened so as usual you look like an idiot.

You say you are a crusader for strengthing the League, Bullshit, you are the biggest problem in the league and we both know you had planned to quit like the other quitters, except you got a free year and I guess you need the $75. If you had any balls you would do the league a favor and quit now. As an aside, the weenie that was going to buy your team did not want to spend the money.

You said I voted for an extremely one-sided trade in another league. True as far as you went, but you conveniently left out that I stated that it was a bad trade and the rules should be looked at. You also failed to mention that the Court reinstated the trade and moved the players according to the original trade. You are such an ass you think that your opinion is the only one that carries any weight - well think again. You are egotistical enough to think you know how the rules should be written, I happen to agree that they should be looked at and perhaps changed but do not hold myself up as the authority on the subject. By the way there was another trade that was probably worst than the one you referenced and I voted for that too and it also passed.

As to your crap about your bid, it is just that crap. Unless you either really did not want the player or you were trying to help out the other team it was a mistake on your part. Or perhaps you can not do the math.

You can respond to this and have the last word here and on the forum, I will not respond to either. Perhaps that will satisfy your ego and you will keep your word and not discuss anything with me. The humor I found in your BS has run its course and now it is just tiring. Unless you attack me personally I will not respond to any of your post in the future. So you get one free shot on the forum - have fun.

Walt

Gee thanks, Walt! You know I never had a problem before you joined this league and let us just leave at the fact that you are an idiot. WHo else would email this diatribe to a family email when asked to never communicate with me ever again just a few posts ago. I really have to laugh when all of your complaints are the same very tactics you use yourself.

as for leaving League 5, What challenge do you really pose? None. it is I that tried to let things be by never responding to your litany of weekly, sometimes daily league/personal emails all last year. i just bit my lip and kicked yours and the rest of the league's all year long. Why stay? To deal with you this entire year? I have played Individual defense leagues for a good 12-13 years now and NEVER have I met a more immature, worthless human being as an owner than you. Qutting is admitting defeat. I will leave on my own terms. i do want to be fairly compensated for my time and efforts, like anyone else. then again anyone that would say if I had any balls, i should quit now, then add that i was quitting like the other quitters in the same sentence group is a precise example of the type of buffoonery I have been puting up with from you for 1 1/2 years. I guess you do not believe in the American Ideal that says, if you do not believe in a system, if you want something better, stand up and TRY and make it better. I do not need to run my list of credentials as far as running leagues is concerned by you or anyone else, but ANYONE who is paying for their entry into EFS has a right to test the rules and try and have them changed if that is the will of the customer base.

BTW starting an email by comparing someone else to your ex-wife....CLASSIC!!!!!! Real nice touch there.

[IceTyger]

Talk about hypocrisy. A guy goes out and tries to screw another owner in a trade that literally rocked EF to the point where other leagues were weighing in and a ruling even speaks to the fact that it was a bad trade. The same guy ripping people off constantly, then continues to whine and cry about every other thing he deems bad. And some owners just decide to turn a blind eye to the buffoon the entire year knowing he is full of it. But then he has to continue the whining anyway which eventually forces other owners who couldn't care less about his childish rants to finally speak out.
The only quality comments posted are the cut and pastes taken from quite literally the previous posting.
Oh, and by the way, still no bids on the rfa page. Glad we got that up and running.
Oh, and due to the bullying and my fears, I have enlisted the help of Mr. Miyagi to properly train me on the art of proper chopstick use while catching flies.

[Clean316]

The entertainment value of this thread is through the roof. I can't wait for one of you to threaten to waive your private parts at the others auntie or tell them to go away before you taunt them a second time. Priceless.

As far as RFA, I will use this forum to once again deride the idiocy of 3.000 max bid. Which precluded me from making overwhelming offers on both Marc Bulger & Matt Shaub (I bid the max # mil on both, both of which were obviously matched). Also, the ridiculous requirement of having your "own" 1st rnd pick in the ensuing year's draft in order to bid on a franchised player. In one of my other leagues I actually had 3 2008 #1s, none of which were my original pick, so I had to deal to get my original #1 back in order to bid on a franchised player. The fact that this rule also limits the number of franchise players you choose to bid on to 1, lunacy piled atop of idiocy.

You guys keep up the good work.

Hugs & Kisses to all.

[IceTyger]

Yeah, I was not even aware of that nuance. That being that you cannot bid on a franchise without your own pick. Feel free to voice your opinion here as a few of us are more than willing to deliberate with you.
Of course the great part is that you also get some good old fashioned nonsense to read and if you miss one of our previous messages, junior will be more than happy to paste it into his meaningless diatribe. And many times you can even read his brilliant emails where he positions himself as a great general among men and then manages to sound like Kenny from South Park. But we may have to begin charging as anything that good deserves some compensation.
Yeah. Still waiting for those new modified rules to show up and also waiting for rfa to get going.
Well, gotta be going as I am merging my corporations to form one mega corporation. And then there is the whole custody battle for my ex-wife's dead parrot.
man law #55: men do not copy and paste messages which appeared fewer than three messages ago. UGH

[IceTyger]

Wow. The bye weeks are posted on nfl.com. I never would have guessed. Thanks for letting me know. Now i can set my lineup for week 1.

[Nasty]

The bidding has been wild and sometimes puzzling. Try this out:

If you are going to make the opening bid on a player in RFA that has a contract of 4.659 and you really want to get the player in question -

Would you bid 4 @ 1.250 = 5.000 allowing current owner to match at a salary of 1.250.

or

Would you bid 4 @ 1.150 = 4.600 requiring the current owner to match at 4.659 to keep the player.


if this is what really went down, seems like somebody is soooo desperate to be succeed at F-A-N-T-A-S-Y football ... that they have kindled friendly bidding relationships. Way to go Ice Tiger - ya stud!!!

[IceTyger]

actually i already succeeded by winning this league my second year in it. I didn't just go to the super bowl and lose, then proceed to gloat about how great i was. I just came in and quietly won the league. Then i proceeded to watch "no man" come in and pull shady deals so he could go and lose a super bowl and brag like a little girl who just got a new dolly. But thanks for your comment dude.