JungleHamsters
2005-09-12, 23:13
Author Comment BryanB (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bryanb@e fsunderground) http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif
Moderator
Posts: 727
(8/25/05 1:32)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic) | Edit (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showEditScreen?topicID=24.to pic)
http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif braging Time I am the best, i am the best, My team is better then everybody else. Come on, Manning, Holmes, Alexander, Horn, Holt, Heap, Chad, Ol that consist of 2 Cheifs, 2 bengals, 1 Eagle, 1 Viking (yes starting), a Patriot, and defence of Edwards, Thomas, Rice, Little, Tinosomoa, washington, Dawkins.
Who really can compare to my team? Really? Honestly? Trigger44 (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=trigger4 4@efsunderground)
Registered User
Posts: 184
(8/25/05 4:37)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=1) Should I take the bait??? Sure, I should. Well, you're definitly NOT the best speller. Seriously, slow down and sound the words out.
As far as your team. You do have some players, however, you're reaching a bit with some names and over simplifying the status of your team simply because you have some big names on your roster.
True, you have Holmes and Alexander. Which is cosmetic since you may only start one. You have Manning. You had the number one overall pick. That's a no brainer. Horn is decent, but no superstar. Heap is a name, a talented, yet often injured name who put up big numbers being the only Raven who could a) get open and b) catch. Allow me to introduce you to a couple of friends. Mark Clayton and Derrick Mason, this is Bryan. Bryan this is Mark Clayton and Derrick Mason. If you're nice I'll introduce you to a little thing I call "reality" later. Tinosomoa? Really?
Anyways, with the exception of a couple of teams anybody can do what you just did. Throw out their starting line ups, with no thought to injuries, teams that will surprise, teams that will struggle and of course depth.
Here, I'll try.
Look at me. Look at me. I've got McNabb, the Edge, T.O, D. Bennett, D. Driver, Troupe and an OL of Packers, Vikings, Panthers, Rams, and Raiders. I've got Suggs and Abraham coming off the corners, Ferguson or Jenkins in the middle. Urlacher and Wong holding down the middle with Vrabel and Barton rounding out the LB spots. Decent, yet cheap DBs, and a top 5 kicker.
See on paper everybody looks good. Let's look a little deeper...
Other than Allen and Dawkins, you've got a who's who of who cares in you D backfield. You spent a 1st and a 2nd round rook pick on two CBs if I remember correctly. And you question my decisions? That's the equivelent of taking Rolle, with a first round pick, and Jones with a second. You yourself would have crucified anybody who made those picks this year. You have 9 DE, 5 of which managed to avg double digits last year. If Mathis and Hayword don't live up to last years hype, you're thin. And Little is ONE mistake away from being banned for the year. Thomas and Edwards ARE studs inside. And both on the backside of their careers. (you do know this is a multi-year franchise league right?) Outside you have Washington. That's it. You're strong on paper at OL. Manning is great. McNair is a risk with potential. You're strong at RB. Horn, Johnson, and Holt are strong starters, but your depth at WR is weak. Special teams are solid. Overall, depth included. You've got a B+ team on paper. You're lack of quality depth on the DL, WR and LBs grades you down from an A.
Just about EVERYBODY can compare to your team. Really. Honestly. BryanB (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bryanb@e fsunderground) http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif
Moderator
Posts: 729
(8/25/05 5:00)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=2) | Edit (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showEditScreen?topicID=24.to pic&index=2)
http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif Torros My roster has a lot less question marks and better depth then yours.
Your WR either arnt good, loud mouths who have already been suspened once by their team, or guys who had a few weeks of monster games to boost there overal stats.
You have one TE that is healthy and starting and in washington, thats not a good sign.
Your qb has decent depth but i see you starting Delhomme more then McNabb.
You have a viking Ol sure, but he is a NFL backup, he was demoted as where the guy i drafted in the 4th round is starting. You barely can put togetehr a decent core of OL.
You have one OLb that has proven anything. Vrabel probably will be moved on the inside. Which you could play 3 ILB but lose points with one out of position.
Sure you got suggs at DE, but Abrahams holdout is looking messy and has no end in sight, and to the fact he was injured anyway.
And you have cheap DBs mostly junk, i did spend a bit to get mine. But they are either rookies who will be tested often, or players on the other side of stars like Asougma.
Trigger44 (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=trigger4 4@efsunderground)
Registered User
Posts: 185
(8/25/05 10:29)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=3) Ah, to be as objective as you... WRs aren't good?? You are clearly just running your mouth at this point. Yes, Owens is a cancer. But he will start. He will play. He will score and score often. Driver has been in the top 15 of all WR for 3 years straight. Bennett is the one true option in Tennessee. Add back ups like Smith, Toomer, and Robinson at WR and I have one of deepest WR groups in the league.
As far as OL, it all depends on what depth chart you're looking at. And if Goldberg ends up as a back up, no big deal. I've got plenty of depth at OL. They may not be top teir guys, but I've got Panthers, Packers, Ravens, Jets. Not exactly scrubs.
Both Kleinsaucer and Troupe will see significant playing time. Yes both were coming off injuries but that was the point. They aren't very expensive. And it's funny you should talk. How's Heap's rehab coming along.
Yes, Vrabel MIGHT be moved to the inside. But Bell and/or Wong will definitly be moved outside so it all evens out. Peek will have a break out year and Barton's been solid so, again, you're simply running your mouth.
Abraham will be in. Guess what. It's football. Everybody gets injured so to hold that against a guy who is by all reports healthy again just shows that you will spin it any way you can to try and look better than you are. And if something did happen to Abe, check out the 2 other 15 pts avg back up DEs I've got in Smith and Smith. You've got whom?
Oh, and I agree Delhomme will have a good year, but better than McNabb?? Again, you must be high.
My junk DBs cost me NOTHING and have/will score more that your rookies who just got their crunk asses to camp. Al Harris, Mike Minter, Lynch, yeah. That's junk.
Notice how I didn't take shots at your team? I a gave an objective view of your roster. You are unable to perform such a function, nor are you able to spell any contractions will accuracey. "arnt" is not a word. http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif . Your turn... BryanB (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bryanb@e fsunderground) http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif
Moderator
Posts: 730
(8/25/05 16:45)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=4) | Edit (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showEditScreen?topicID=24.to pic&index=4)
http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif Oh... So you mean the Bell that is often injured and has a bum shoulder and wont make it through the season.
Or the backups of toomer who scored all of 0 tds last season? Or Robinson who very very quickly is droping down to 4th WR for the vikes? Or Driver who supposed was a top 15 Wr the last 3 years but in 2003 managed to score 7 pts a game? TOp 15 with that? Uh no.
You got depth at OL but not good depth. You have maybe 3 guys that could score 20 points a game.
Kleinsaucer is primarily a blocking TE. Wiggins is the pass recieving TE
Abraham is holding out, and when he is not holding out he is hurt. And lazy, He hasnt played a full season since 02.
And McNabb is nothing special. He had a good year. And the way things are going with owens he has nobody to throw to.
You're just a little angry, somebody who you thought sucked at fantasy football put together a way better roster then yourself Trigger44 (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=trigger4 4@efsunderground)
Registered User
Posts: 186
(8/26/05 0:45)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=5) Bitter, party of one, your table is now available... Dude, you're really making yourself look silly. McNabb is nothing special?? Okay.
Wiggins was cut by his last 2 teams DURING the season. He had A good year last year. Kleinsaucer caught passes as a FB, what makes you think he won't get any balls as a TE?
Bell is an injury risk. But he's worth the risk. The year Driver scored 7 a game was the year he injured his neck and was out for something like 1/3 of the season. Prior to that year we was still a top 15 WR. Toomer looked fine against the Panthers the other day. Besides who caught any TDs last year for the Giants? Things change my spelling and grammatically challenged friend.
I'm not trying to debunk your team. I simply rebuked your statement of nobody being able to hang w/ your team. I gave you a B+ rating. I'm not angry about anything. You're ammusing. That's why I respond. Just to see you say things like "McNabb is nothing special, he had a good year".
My team, as well as most other in this league will hang with your team this year and surpass it in years to come. Unless, you bail on this team like you have on all your other leagues but one. Time will tell little fella. BryanB (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bryanb@e fsunderground) http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif
Moderator
Posts: 732
(8/26/05 2:24)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=6) | Edit (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showEditScreen?topicID=24.to pic&index=6)
http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif MCanbb McNabb is nothing special, he had a career year last year, way above his normal. Just cause he can run a little bit you think he is some kind of stud like people think of vick.
And you're hoping all these players out perform what they have, always looking for the years to come but never what is in front you.
Why do you think my team is loaded with older players but studs none the less, cause the other teams put too much weight on the future, and left me with excellent players to draft.
And who cares about next years? I will win it this year, It takes 12 years for every team to win 1 championship. So would i rather be a former champion in 5 years? Or one that is still trying to win? Trigger44 (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=trigger4 4@efsunderground)
Registered User
Posts: 187
(8/26/05 12:47)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=7) Yawn........ If my roster simply avg. what they avg. last year my starters compete with everybody in the league. I gambled on some injured players, but my feeling is those gambles will pay off. The Eagles are in the SAME situation they were in last year when he had a huge year. Buckhaulter out for the year. Running game on the shoulders of Westbrook, who isn't big enought to line up and pound it 20 times a game. So, to the passing game we go. McNabb will be fine this year. And yes, the smart player balances the now with the future. My team could win it all this year. I'm also confident that I've set myself up nicely for the future. Unlike, you who trades high picks for unproven DBs. I'll tell you what. If you win the whole thing this year. I'll pay for your team next year. If I win the whole thing you do the same.
Moderator
Posts: 727
(8/25/05 1:32)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic) | Edit (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showEditScreen?topicID=24.to pic)
http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif braging Time I am the best, i am the best, My team is better then everybody else. Come on, Manning, Holmes, Alexander, Horn, Holt, Heap, Chad, Ol that consist of 2 Cheifs, 2 bengals, 1 Eagle, 1 Viking (yes starting), a Patriot, and defence of Edwards, Thomas, Rice, Little, Tinosomoa, washington, Dawkins.
Who really can compare to my team? Really? Honestly? Trigger44 (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=trigger4 4@efsunderground)
Registered User
Posts: 184
(8/25/05 4:37)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=1) Should I take the bait??? Sure, I should. Well, you're definitly NOT the best speller. Seriously, slow down and sound the words out.
As far as your team. You do have some players, however, you're reaching a bit with some names and over simplifying the status of your team simply because you have some big names on your roster.
True, you have Holmes and Alexander. Which is cosmetic since you may only start one. You have Manning. You had the number one overall pick. That's a no brainer. Horn is decent, but no superstar. Heap is a name, a talented, yet often injured name who put up big numbers being the only Raven who could a) get open and b) catch. Allow me to introduce you to a couple of friends. Mark Clayton and Derrick Mason, this is Bryan. Bryan this is Mark Clayton and Derrick Mason. If you're nice I'll introduce you to a little thing I call "reality" later. Tinosomoa? Really?
Anyways, with the exception of a couple of teams anybody can do what you just did. Throw out their starting line ups, with no thought to injuries, teams that will surprise, teams that will struggle and of course depth.
Here, I'll try.
Look at me. Look at me. I've got McNabb, the Edge, T.O, D. Bennett, D. Driver, Troupe and an OL of Packers, Vikings, Panthers, Rams, and Raiders. I've got Suggs and Abraham coming off the corners, Ferguson or Jenkins in the middle. Urlacher and Wong holding down the middle with Vrabel and Barton rounding out the LB spots. Decent, yet cheap DBs, and a top 5 kicker.
See on paper everybody looks good. Let's look a little deeper...
Other than Allen and Dawkins, you've got a who's who of who cares in you D backfield. You spent a 1st and a 2nd round rook pick on two CBs if I remember correctly. And you question my decisions? That's the equivelent of taking Rolle, with a first round pick, and Jones with a second. You yourself would have crucified anybody who made those picks this year. You have 9 DE, 5 of which managed to avg double digits last year. If Mathis and Hayword don't live up to last years hype, you're thin. And Little is ONE mistake away from being banned for the year. Thomas and Edwards ARE studs inside. And both on the backside of their careers. (you do know this is a multi-year franchise league right?) Outside you have Washington. That's it. You're strong on paper at OL. Manning is great. McNair is a risk with potential. You're strong at RB. Horn, Johnson, and Holt are strong starters, but your depth at WR is weak. Special teams are solid. Overall, depth included. You've got a B+ team on paper. You're lack of quality depth on the DL, WR and LBs grades you down from an A.
Just about EVERYBODY can compare to your team. Really. Honestly. BryanB (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bryanb@e fsunderground) http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif
Moderator
Posts: 729
(8/25/05 5:00)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=2) | Edit (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showEditScreen?topicID=24.to pic&index=2)
http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif Torros My roster has a lot less question marks and better depth then yours.
Your WR either arnt good, loud mouths who have already been suspened once by their team, or guys who had a few weeks of monster games to boost there overal stats.
You have one TE that is healthy and starting and in washington, thats not a good sign.
Your qb has decent depth but i see you starting Delhomme more then McNabb.
You have a viking Ol sure, but he is a NFL backup, he was demoted as where the guy i drafted in the 4th round is starting. You barely can put togetehr a decent core of OL.
You have one OLb that has proven anything. Vrabel probably will be moved on the inside. Which you could play 3 ILB but lose points with one out of position.
Sure you got suggs at DE, but Abrahams holdout is looking messy and has no end in sight, and to the fact he was injured anyway.
And you have cheap DBs mostly junk, i did spend a bit to get mine. But they are either rookies who will be tested often, or players on the other side of stars like Asougma.
Trigger44 (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=trigger4 4@efsunderground)
Registered User
Posts: 185
(8/25/05 10:29)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=3) Ah, to be as objective as you... WRs aren't good?? You are clearly just running your mouth at this point. Yes, Owens is a cancer. But he will start. He will play. He will score and score often. Driver has been in the top 15 of all WR for 3 years straight. Bennett is the one true option in Tennessee. Add back ups like Smith, Toomer, and Robinson at WR and I have one of deepest WR groups in the league.
As far as OL, it all depends on what depth chart you're looking at. And if Goldberg ends up as a back up, no big deal. I've got plenty of depth at OL. They may not be top teir guys, but I've got Panthers, Packers, Ravens, Jets. Not exactly scrubs.
Both Kleinsaucer and Troupe will see significant playing time. Yes both were coming off injuries but that was the point. They aren't very expensive. And it's funny you should talk. How's Heap's rehab coming along.
Yes, Vrabel MIGHT be moved to the inside. But Bell and/or Wong will definitly be moved outside so it all evens out. Peek will have a break out year and Barton's been solid so, again, you're simply running your mouth.
Abraham will be in. Guess what. It's football. Everybody gets injured so to hold that against a guy who is by all reports healthy again just shows that you will spin it any way you can to try and look better than you are. And if something did happen to Abe, check out the 2 other 15 pts avg back up DEs I've got in Smith and Smith. You've got whom?
Oh, and I agree Delhomme will have a good year, but better than McNabb?? Again, you must be high.
My junk DBs cost me NOTHING and have/will score more that your rookies who just got their crunk asses to camp. Al Harris, Mike Minter, Lynch, yeah. That's junk.
Notice how I didn't take shots at your team? I a gave an objective view of your roster. You are unable to perform such a function, nor are you able to spell any contractions will accuracey. "arnt" is not a word. http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif . Your turn... BryanB (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bryanb@e fsunderground) http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif
Moderator
Posts: 730
(8/25/05 16:45)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=4) | Edit (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showEditScreen?topicID=24.to pic&index=4)
http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif Oh... So you mean the Bell that is often injured and has a bum shoulder and wont make it through the season.
Or the backups of toomer who scored all of 0 tds last season? Or Robinson who very very quickly is droping down to 4th WR for the vikes? Or Driver who supposed was a top 15 Wr the last 3 years but in 2003 managed to score 7 pts a game? TOp 15 with that? Uh no.
You got depth at OL but not good depth. You have maybe 3 guys that could score 20 points a game.
Kleinsaucer is primarily a blocking TE. Wiggins is the pass recieving TE
Abraham is holding out, and when he is not holding out he is hurt. And lazy, He hasnt played a full season since 02.
And McNabb is nothing special. He had a good year. And the way things are going with owens he has nobody to throw to.
You're just a little angry, somebody who you thought sucked at fantasy football put together a way better roster then yourself Trigger44 (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=trigger4 4@efsunderground)
Registered User
Posts: 186
(8/26/05 0:45)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=5) Bitter, party of one, your table is now available... Dude, you're really making yourself look silly. McNabb is nothing special?? Okay.
Wiggins was cut by his last 2 teams DURING the season. He had A good year last year. Kleinsaucer caught passes as a FB, what makes you think he won't get any balls as a TE?
Bell is an injury risk. But he's worth the risk. The year Driver scored 7 a game was the year he injured his neck and was out for something like 1/3 of the season. Prior to that year we was still a top 15 WR. Toomer looked fine against the Panthers the other day. Besides who caught any TDs last year for the Giants? Things change my spelling and grammatically challenged friend.
I'm not trying to debunk your team. I simply rebuked your statement of nobody being able to hang w/ your team. I gave you a B+ rating. I'm not angry about anything. You're ammusing. That's why I respond. Just to see you say things like "McNabb is nothing special, he had a good year".
My team, as well as most other in this league will hang with your team this year and surpass it in years to come. Unless, you bail on this team like you have on all your other leagues but one. Time will tell little fella. BryanB (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bryanb@e fsunderground) http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif
Moderator
Posts: 732
(8/26/05 2:24)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=6) | Edit (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showEditScreen?topicID=24.to pic&index=6)
http://helmet-depot.com/h-1354.gif MCanbb McNabb is nothing special, he had a career year last year, way above his normal. Just cause he can run a little bit you think he is some kind of stud like people think of vick.
And you're hoping all these players out perform what they have, always looking for the years to come but never what is in front you.
Why do you think my team is loaded with older players but studs none the less, cause the other teams put too much weight on the future, and left me with excellent players to draft.
And who cares about next years? I will win it this year, It takes 12 years for every team to win 1 championship. So would i rather be a former champion in 5 years? Or one that is still trying to win? Trigger44 (http://p073.ezboard.com/befsunderground.showUserPublicProfile?gid=trigger4 4@efsunderground)
Registered User
Posts: 187
(8/26/05 12:47)
Reply (http://p073.ezboard.com/fefsundergroundfrm105.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?to picID=24.topic&index=7) Yawn........ If my roster simply avg. what they avg. last year my starters compete with everybody in the league. I gambled on some injured players, but my feeling is those gambles will pay off. The Eagles are in the SAME situation they were in last year when he had a huge year. Buckhaulter out for the year. Running game on the shoulders of Westbrook, who isn't big enought to line up and pound it 20 times a game. So, to the passing game we go. McNabb will be fine this year. And yes, the smart player balances the now with the future. My team could win it all this year. I'm also confident that I've set myself up nicely for the future. Unlike, you who trades high picks for unproven DBs. I'll tell you what. If you win the whole thing this year. I'll pay for your team next year. If I win the whole thing you do the same.